Justine (Ernestine) Rosé-Mahler

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Full Name	Justine (Ernestine) Rose-Mahler -
Birth	#1	Date of Birth	15-12-1868
		Place of Birth	Jihlava

Parents	#1	Mother	Marie Mahler-Herrmann
		Father	Bernhard Mahler
		Siblings	♂️ Konrad Mahler, ♀️ Emma Marie Eleanor Rose-Mahler, ♂️ Otto Mahler, ♂️ Alfred Mahler, ♂️ Friedrich (Fritz) Mahler, ♂️ Arnold Mahler, ♂️ Alois (Louis) Mahler, ♂️ Rudolf Mahler, ♂️ Karl Mahler, ♀️ Leopoldine Quittner-Mahler, ♂️ Ernst Mahler, ♂️ Gustav Mahler, ♂️ Isidor Mahler

Spouse	#1	Name	Arnold Josef Rose
		Children	♀️ Alma Maria Rose, ♂️ Alfred Eduard Rose
Death	#1	Date of death	22-08-1938
		Place of death	Vienna

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Year 1890. Justine (Ernestine) Rose-Mahler (1868-1938) and Gustav Mahler (1860-1911). Budapest.

Relation to Gustav Mahler (1860-1911): A sister.

Born: 15-12-1868 City of Jihlava.
Father: Bernard Mahler (1827-1889) Previous generation.
Mother: Marie Mahler-Herrmann (1837-1889).

Brothers and sisters:

Isidor Mahler (1858-1859).
Gustav Mahler (1860-1911).
Ernst Mahler (1862-1875).
Leopoldine Quittner-Mahler (1863-1889).
Karl Mahler (1864-1865).
Rudolf Mahler (1865-1866).
Alois (Louis) Mahler (1867-1931).
Justine (Ernestine) Rose-Mahler (1868-1938).
Arnold Mahler (1869-1871).
Friedrich (Fritz) Mahler (1871-1871).
Alfred Mahler (1872-1873).
Otto Mahler (1873-1895).
Emma Marie Eleanor Rosé-Mahler (1875-1933).
Konrad Mahler (1879-1881).

Baptised Roman Catholic 23-02-1897 in Hamburg (St. Michael's church small).
Marriage: 10-03-1902 City of Vienna, Evangelical church (Dorotheergasse), a day after the marriage between Gustav Mahler (1860-1911) and Alma Mahler (1879-1964) in the Karlskirche. Gustav and Alma are NOT present.
Husband: Arnold Josef Rose (1863-1946).
See also Gustav Mahler-Alfred Rosé Collection - Family relationships

Children: 2:

Education: 1879-1881 School Girls Primary and Secondary (Husova Nos. 54/1671, Leupold Gasse No. 179), City of Jihlava.
Profession: She took care of Gustav Mahlers household in Hamburg (Germany) and Vienna (Austria) until 09-03-1902 (marriage Gustav with Alma).

Address: 1868-1872 House Gustav Mahler Jihlava 1860-1872 (Znojemska street Nos. 4/1089, Pirnitzer Gasse No. 265), City of Jihlava.
Address: 1872-1889 House Gustav Mahler Jihlava 1872-1889 (Znojemska street Nos. 6/1088, Pirnitzer Gasse No. 264), City of Jihlava.
Address: 1890-1902 1890-1902 House Gustav Mahler Vienna - Breitegasse No. 4.
Address: 1894: August: Justine (Ernestine) Rose-Mahler (1868-1938) and Emma Marie Eleanor Rose-Mahler (1875-1933) subrented the house of Nina Hoffmann-Matscheko (1844-1914) in August 1894 before they moved to Gustav Mahler in Hamburg.
Address: 1898-1902 House Gustav Mahler Vienna 1898-1909 (Auenbruggergasse No. 2, Rennweg No. 5)
Address: 1909-1910 Lager house with garden in Dobling, Vienna.

Nickname: Justi.
Crossed eyes.
Justine Mahler is eight years younger than her brother Gustav Mahler (1860-1911).
Became Catholic in the same period as Gustav
She would never go to a concert without having a doctor with her
She already spoke English when she arrived in America.
She took three years of devoted care for her seriously ill parents.
11-10-1889: When her mother Marie Mahler-Herrmann (1837-1889) died (at the age of 52), Justine was 20 years old.
10-03-1902: Eduard Rose (1859-1943) is married to Emma Marie Eleanor Rosé-Mahler (1875-1933), while his brother Arnold Josef Rose (1863-1946) is married to her sister Justine (Ernestine) Rose-Mahler (1868-1938).
Justine had an extensive celebrity autograph collection. It was for her that her brother Gustav, and her husband Arnold Rosé, saved the personal, the laudatory, and the congratulatory letters from such well-known persons as Nellie Melba, Adelina Patti, Princess Metternich, Wanda Landowska, Moritz Rosenthal, Jacob Dont, Hans Schliessmann, Arnold Schoenberg, Max Bruch, Max Reger, Pietro Mascagni, Richard Strauss, Anton Bruckner, Anton Webern, Engelbert Humperdinck, Antonín Dvorák, Ethel Smyth, Erich Wolfgang Korngold and many others.
Collector of the cooking recipes of the critic Ludwig Karpath (1866-1936).
1899 Concert Vienna 19-02-1899 and Restaurant Meissl und Schaden

See also: Gustav Mahler-Alfred Rosé Collection - Family relationships

Correspondence: Yes
- 30-03-1891 Year 1891 Letter to Justine (Ernestine) Rose-Mahler (1868-1938) about Stadttheater.
- 27-01-1893 Year 1893 Hamburg: Letter to Justine (Ernestine) Rose-Mahler (1868-1938).
- 00-01-1894 Year 1894 Letter to Justine (Ernestine) Rose-Mahler (1868-1938) about Thalia Theater.
- 06-02-1894 Year 1894 Letter to Justine (Ernestine) Rose-Mahler (1868-1938) about his about his appointment at Conventgarten (in 1894 and 1895).
- 26-04-1885 Year 1885 Kassel: Letter to Justine (Ernestine) Rose-Mahler (1868-1938).
- 09-05-1885 Year 1885 Kassel: Letter to Justine (Ernestine) Rose-Mahler (1868-1938).
- 09-05-1886 Year 1886 Jihlava: Letter to Gustav Mahler (1860-1911).
- 00-06-1886 Year 1886 Prague: Letter to Gustav Mahler (1860-1911).
- 03-06-1896 Year 1886 Dresden: Picture postcard to Justine (Ernestine) Rose-Mahler (1868-1938) in Munich.
- 04-06-1886 Year 1886 Jihlava: Letter to Gustav Mahler (1860-1911).
- 16-06-1886 Year 1886 Jihlava: Letter to Gustav Mahler (1860-1911).
- 05-07-1886 Year 1886 Jihlava: Letter to Gustav Mahler (1860-1911).
- 14-07-1886 Year 1886 Jihlava: Letter to Gustav Mahler (1860-1911).
- 00-08-1886 Year 1886 Leipzig: Letter to Justine (Ernestine) Rose-Mahler (1868-1938).
- 00-10-1886 Year 1886 Leipzig: Letter to Justine (Ernestine) Rose-Mahler (1868-1938).
- 00-00-1888 Year 1888 Letter to Justine (Ernestine) Rose-Mahler (1868-1938).
- 24-03-1897 Year 1897 Munich: Letter to Justine (Ernestine) Rose-Mahler (1868-1938).
- 00-08-1897 Year 1897 Vienna: Letter to Justine (Ernestine) Rose-Mahler (1868-1938).
- 00-02-1889 Year 1889 Budapest: Letter to Justine (Ernestine) Rose-Mahler (1868-1938).
- 00-03-1889 Year 1889 Budapest: Letter to Justine (Ernestine) Rose-Mahler (1868-1938).
- 00-03-1889 Year 1889 Budapest: Letter to Justine (Ernestine) Rose-Mahler (1868-1938).
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Died: 22-08-1938 City of Vienna. Aged 69.
Buried: 24-08-1938 Grinzing cemetery (20-5-6), City of Vienna. Rose family grave.

Justine (Ernestine) Rose-Mahler (1868-1938) and Leopoldine Quittner-Mahler (1863-1889).

Year 1889. Justine (Ernestine) Rose-Mahler (1868-1938) and Emma Marie Eleanor Rose-Mahler (1875-1933).

Year 1889. Gustav Mahler (1860-1911) and Justine (Ernestine) Rose-Mahler (1868-1938).

Year 1889. 21-10-1889. Gustav Mahler and his sister Justine (Ernestine) Rose-Mahler (1868-1938) sent a petition to the court to grant Justine 'emancipated' status after the death of their father, Bernard Mahler (1827-1889). With signatures.

HIGHLY ESTEEMED
IMPERIAL AND ROYAL DISTRICT COURT

According to her birth certificate obtained from lglau on 15th April 1889 my sister Justine Mahler was born on 15th December 1868 and will therefore be very shortly 21 years of age.
Considering that my sister is economical, a good housekeeper , industrious and so dependable that she can confidently be entrusted with managing her own possessions; and considering that my sister, after the death of our mother a few days ago, is going to leave lglau and take up permanent residence in Budapest and share a home with me there; and considering that the management and possible selling off of the small estate she inherited from our Father would involve disproportionately high costs if it had to be done under the active supervision of the Board of Guardians. Accordingly I and my sister jointly undersigned submit the following request:

That the Highly Esteemed District Court declare my sister Justine Mahler to have attained her majority and transmit the Order to my representative Dr. G. Spitz (...?) in lglau.
lglau.

21/10/1889

//Justine Mahler//

//Gustav Mahler//

Year 1889. 21-10-1889 / 14-03-2001. Gustav Mahler and his sister Justine (Ernestine) Rose-Mahler (1868-1938) sent a petition to the court to grant Justine 'emancipated' status after the death of their father, Bernard Mahler (1827-1889). Note from Henry-Louis de La Grange (1924-2017) from the Médiathèque Musicale Mahler (MMM) to Dr. Levi about the petition. With his transcript in German and translation in English.

Year 1890. Justine (Ernestine) Rose-Mahler (1868-1938).

03-06-1896, Year 1896. Picture postcard sent by Gustav Mahler in Dresden to his sister Justine (Ernestine) Rose-Mahler (1868-1938) in Munich:

Everything went well. Arthur Nikisch (1855-1922) will perform Nos. 1 and 2 in the Gewandhaus - from Symphony No. 2, and 4 and 5 from Symphony No. 3 in Berlin. Ernst von Schuch (1846-1914) is performing the whole of Symphony No. 2. The local intendant listened too. It even pleased him personally. Scheidemantel will sing the Fahrenden Gesellen! I am travelling overnight to Vienna. Affectionately, g.

Postcard Gruss aus Dresden. Postmark: Dresden 03-06-1896, Arrival postmark: 04-06-1896.

Fine autograph postcard signed ("g"), to his sister, Justine (Ernestine) Rose-Mahler (1868-1938), with autograph address panel, a little creased, postmarked, Dresden, 03-06-1896.

Some of the excitement of Mahler's feelings is revealed in this message, written in a small space, in pencil, between the views of Dresden. Three movements of Symphony No. 2 had been performed in a concert in 1895 and it had been given complete in 12-1895. The whole of Symphony No. 3 was not played until 1902.

The Berlin performance took place on 09-11-1896.
The Leipzig performance took place on 14-12-1896.
In the end Schuch performed only the second, third and fourth movements of Symphony No. 2 on 15-01-1897.
Intendant: Graf Nikolas von Seebach (1854-1930).
Baritone: Karl Scheidemantel (1859-1923).
To Fraulein Justine Mahler in Munchen, Schellingstrasse 70, at Rudolf Krzyzanowski (1859-1911)'s. Justine was en route to Steinbach.